Talk:The Bee's Knees
Trivia
I'd like to talk about the "Bee's Knees" name. How is it not related to the obvious "arrow in the knee" and it being bee related? The perfect combination for a name with those two references would be "bees knees." Why not add it in as trivia? Or was something said from the creators? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bacardibby (talk • contribs) at 19:04, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Bee's Knees is a pretty well-worn phrase that's nearly a century old. Nothing else in the game points to anything more than that. Proof from the developers would be needed by someone looking to contend otherwise, not to disprove theories and speculation. Gearzein (talk) 00:13, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Besides the fact that bees knees is a pretty common phrase, I dont think they came up with the idea of a bow of which its arrows shoot out bees was just the "bees knees." Its not meant to be as fact, but its a possibility that it was thought of and just given a well known name that would give hint to its original thought prior to creation. I was asking if the creators mentioned anything because the trivia thats currently there is acting as if it was the only idea related to the bow's creation. Especially since the creators like to come up with "clever" names for their items. "Bees knees" would only be related to the fact that the bow is BEE related. Which would hardly be a 'clever name." The fact that the bees are homing, as well as the fact that the weapon itself is a bow using plain arrows to work, would increase its chances of it being related to the "arrow in the knee" meme which was so popular back in the day, hence giving it a little more umph in using the name "bees knees." Bacardibby (talk) 17:43 July 13 PST
- The kind of naming that went into the Bee's Knees has certainly been seen before, with the Blade of Grass and the North Pole. While it's possible that the developers decided on the name because of the "arrow in the knee" phrase, it's also likely that they didn't. When adding trivia, the benefit of the doubt is against the references, so, unless the reference is "undeniable" (such as the Hero's clothes) it generally shouldn't be added. –KM100 (talk) 01:28, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- I see! That makes sense. I guess its because I've played this game for so long and everything seemed to have references tied to it. The creators seemed to be a fan of references as references were being made everywhere... I ended up starting to look at everything as "it must be a reference to something!" Though I know a lot of people are like that. Welp, thanks for checking in!Bacardibby (talk) 10:18PM July 15 2015 PST
- The kind of naming that went into the Bee's Knees has certainly been seen before, with the Blade of Grass and the North Pole. While it's possible that the developers decided on the name because of the "arrow in the knee" phrase, it's also likely that they didn't. When adding trivia, the benefit of the doubt is against the references, so, unless the reference is "undeniable" (such as the Hero's clothes) it generally shouldn't be added. –KM100 (talk) 01:28, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Besides the fact that bees knees is a pretty common phrase, I dont think they came up with the idea of a bow of which its arrows shoot out bees was just the "bees knees." Its not meant to be as fact, but its a possibility that it was thought of and just given a well known name that would give hint to its original thought prior to creation. I was asking if the creators mentioned anything because the trivia thats currently there is acting as if it was the only idea related to the bow's creation. Especially since the creators like to come up with "clever" names for their items. "Bees knees" would only be related to the fact that the bow is BEE related. Which would hardly be a 'clever name." The fact that the bees are homing, as well as the fact that the weapon itself is a bow using plain arrows to work, would increase its chances of it being related to the "arrow in the knee" meme which was so popular back in the day, hence giving it a little more umph in using the name "bees knees." Bacardibby (talk) 17:43 July 13 PST
Tips
Both the initial "arrow of bees" and the subsequent seeking bees are affected by the set bonus of the Frost armour. In theory this makes it very easy to spread and maintain the frostburn debuff, in practice I'm not sure where that would be useful. Seems worth mentioning on the page somewhere, but I don't know if it's a Note or a Tip and I'm not terribly confident with editing the page myself. Jikkuryuu (talk) 00:05, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Notes
This may be obvious to a reader other than me, but based on the phrasing that the initial impact of the special projectile is "spawning" the resultant bees, I am unclear on whether the initial projectile alone is considered to be ranged damage alone, or the bees spawned by the impact are as well. Additionally, Are the spawned bees' stats impacted by the modifier of the weapon? TBH I'm just trying to optimize my WoF run rn, but these points seem like they could be clarified by someone more knowledgable. LogiBear18086861 (talk) 06:45, 22 May 2020 (UTC)