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Pet

Pedguin got a light pet from him. We need to know it's drop rate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.70.109.52 at 06:33, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

It is expert mode exclusive. 100% drop in that mode. 222.65.124.99 10:25, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

The Line

Just want to point out that healing effects from Spectre Armor and Vampire Knives are not actually fully disabled during the fight, but rather the mouth tentacle that periodically attaches to the player now inflicts Moon Bite debuff that temporarily renders these effects useless. If you are far enough away from the boss that the tentacle cannot reach you, the debuff will not be applied and you can heal up as normal by attacking the boss from this distance. --Setheral (talk) 09:29, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Not impossible in singleplayer

Someone said in the tips that this boss should not be fought in singleplayer, or that he'd need an inifinite number of tries. That's stupid. I've fought him seven times and defeaten him four. He is not that hard. I'd remove that "tip" that was probably writen by an unprepared, frustrated player. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.21.238.51 at 11:12, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I've removed that comment, and cleaned up the Tips section a little bit as well. Gearzein (talk) 11:41, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Maybe he was just fighting him in expert mode without first killing him in normal, which is, indeed, almost impossible. 178.70.109.52 11:43, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
I didn't find him -that- hard on Expert, and I wasn't using post-Moon Lord gear yet. It took me three tries, which was mostly teaching me the tactics I needed to use, for example- Magic Mirror to the nurse to heal before dying, using my Rod of Discord to teleport past his Phantasmal Deathray beam attack, etc. (If you don't have a Rod of Discord, you could Magic Mirror if he's about to kill you with the beam and you can't circle away from it). It's all tactics. Anyone can handle it with practice and planning.--216.84.182.10 20:22, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Try reading this guide for moon lord help -Vortexpillar (talk) 11:38, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
On top of that guide, there are many strategies that I have found useful on the internet, such as having mass life regeneration combined with a layer of blocks above you to block the Phantasmal Deathray. Searching up Moon Lord Guide will show you most of these strategies.Reecespuff (talk) 04:14, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Do you guys think it's a possible reference?

Fell appearances aside, like humam body and Cthulhu head... The greenish color, three "main" eyes, the fact it cames from the moon and the ability to prevent healing when he spawns... Reminded me of Crota, son of Oryx from the game Destiny. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.57.61.52 at 17:38, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

I don't know about Destiny, but when i saw him, i was thinking 'Moon Lord... AKA... —�— CTHULHU!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jc3833 (talk • contribs) at 23:30, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
To clear up any misconception for any future readers, the Terraria team has confirmed he is somewhat of a brother-ish to CthulhuϟAwesome_Diamondsϟtalk」 18:55, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

It reference to a lord the controls moon Terrariaexpert69 (talk) 07:45, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Status of the world after winning

As it is not stated in the article, I'd like to know what happens after defeating the Moon Lord. Will the Cultists respawn at the dungeon and you're able to again bring about the Lunar Events, or will you have to begin a brand new world and work through it? I don't want to miss out on the special fragments from the 4 pillars, and it would be a pain to have to keep starting from scratch whenever I need more luminite. 107.77.70.76 07:52, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Speaking from personal experience, the cultists respawn immediately (or at least within a few minutes) after the Moon Lord is defeated, and one can kill them to begin the Lunar Event sequence again. I've heard on the forums that if you fail to kill the Moon Lord, the cultists will only respawn at the beginning of the next day. It would be a bit silly if that weren't so, because the boss doesn't even drop enough Luminite for a single set of armour each time it is killed. 203.94.42.179 09:11, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Speaking from personal experience, the cultists respawn immediately (or at least within a few minutes) if you fail to kill the Moon Lord, however if you fail to kill the Lunatic Cultist you will have to wait till 0430 the next day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DemonicAnahka (talk • contribs) at 23:37, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
The article on the Cultists says that "All four Cultists respawn and reset their location and initial passive state after one in-game day, if the Lunatic Cultist was not summoned, if the player runs away or dies during the fight, when all 4 Celestial Towers are destroyed, or when the world is closed and restarted. Restarting the world can be the fastest option to reset them to their original state." Reecespuff (talk) 04:07, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
You know, there are a few changes to note. (E.G. shimmer transmutations unlocked) Overlordrunt777777 (talk) 18:36, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

The Tongue

It says on the page that the entities created by the Moon Lord's tongue attack will heal his head. I know that he still does the attack after the core bcomes vulnerable, but does the tongue still create the life-draining orbs and heal the core? 110.33.224.13 14:03, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

That ia an interesting question, and I don't know the answer. Anyways, you probably won't read this, cause it's 2017 now LoL. Also, it's almost 2018 soooooooo... xD Hmmmmmmm777 (talk) 21:40, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Campfires

I am not able to edit the page itself (???) but campfires still worked for me during the Moon Lord fight. "Campfires are disabled" is incorrect and should be removed.

- Fate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.200.85.223 at 10:34, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Done. Equazcion (talk) 10:48, 28 Jul 2015 (UTC)

Vulnerability to flasks and debuffs?

Does anyone know which flasks and debuffs affect the Moon Lord? Just wondering, I doubt many if any of them actually do, but it would be interesting to know. --Racf92 (talk) 02:59, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

all flasks do. the only one that doesn't work i'm pretty sure is the confused one. it even says that on the forums. -megadabber101yt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megadabber101yt (talk • contribs) at 02:27, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Redirect

So on the Celestial Sigil it says "Summons the Impending Doom". Would it be a good idea to have the search Impending Doom go to this page? BirchMonkey857 (talk) 20:41, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

I figure there will be some concerned players who read the sigil's description before fighting Moon Lord, so this seems like a good idea. I've created the page. –KM100 (talk) 20:45, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
I doubt it...They would probably just search "Celestial Sigil" if they don't get it. It's kind of a given because by the time you received the stardust from all towers a message saying "Impending Doom approaches" or something along the lines and then the Moon Lord spawns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.253.249.97 at 17:29, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Glitch - random despawn

For some reason, as there is a glitch in which the moon lord will randomly despawn, even if he is on the screen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.211.87.139 at 21:06, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Please report bugs and glitches here: http://forums.terraria.org/index.php?forums/pc-bug-reports.113/Ferretwings (talk) 04:01, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Background walls hide body parts

I've noticed that all his body parts are hidden behind walls; After I foolishly made a very large arena with background walls to place torches on, he was invisible. I tested that it wasn't a bug of him being completely invisible by going in an open space without walls and he was visible. I used slime block walls as they were easy to come by, maybe it had something to do with that? 24.19.64.217 22:24, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

I know why, it's really simple. Re-logic wanted it to more realistic, so he is BEHIND the walls, so it wasn't just slime walls :) Hmmmmmmm777 (talk) 17:30, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
I never really seen this discussed anywhere, but does that also mean that in a multiplayer server a player who is undergound will be completely immune to the Moon Lord? What happens when the Moon Lord is summoned when underground?..... blocks block a big amount of some attacks, does that mean that a player could make an arena with walls/blocks to fight, attack and avoid being hurt (how would that work)?--Maccentris (talk) 02:34, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Update: I was reading this "guide" here, I'm certain this wont work anymore, will it? --Maccentris (talk) 02:47, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Melee damage is 0?

Why is the melee damage for the Moon Lord 0? Is this supposed to happen or is it vandalism? Because I'm not quite sure how damage he did. Still did a lot, though. :p. LordofEditing (talk) 07:25, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Just below that line states why. (each part has its own attacks). Frenchiveruti (talk) 00:21, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
... It kinda doesn't make sense that the most powerful boss in Terraria (non-modded) does no melee damage. I guess the text=Phantasmal DeathrayPhantasmal Deathray makes up for it. LordofEditing (talk) 01:18, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps the damage is a type of ranged, what with the deathrays, and bolts, and spheres? I don't know. Apparently the eyes in the hands do cause 80 melee damage. I haven't fought him yet, so I'm just going by what the wiki says. (After your initial question, I added that extra line to the infobox, because I'm sure some other players were left scratching their heads as well.) – Ferretwings (talk) 16:37, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
I've fought the moon lord recently, and I would like to point out that this is correct; the eyes themselves do 0 contact damage until they are removed, at which point both the true eye of cthulhu AND the eye socket will deal contact damage, as marked in their respective sections. Until this point, however, the eyes themselves do no contact damage. It is noteworthy that the core also does not do contact damage. It may appear that the eyes do contact damage occasionally, but this is just the eyes summoning phantasmal spheres and dealing damage. Shear Epicness (talk) 17:39, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
its because you'd die instantly. it follows you around. Megadabber101yt (talk) 18:19, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Debuffs?

Is it known whether or not damage inflicting debuffs deal damage to the Moon Lord's body parts whilst the eyes on them are closed? I have noticed the visual affect of Daybroken on his eyelids while fighting him with the Solar Eruption, but haven't been able to figure out if he is actually taking damage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reecespuff (talkcontribs) at 04:21, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Summoning

In the minute until Moon Lord appears, I see some type of blurring affect that takes place. Should this be added to the page? Datshadowjk (talk) 08:49, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Done. Hmmmmmmm777 (talk) 18:25, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Reformatted it into a separate section. If there’s any objections or suggestions, feel free to revert (with a reason) —ϟAwesome_Diamondsϟtalk」 18:49, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Mobile

Ok, I play on the mobile version only :( I know, lame. But, I think that Re-logic should add the final bosses to the mobile version. And also, they should make a bigger screen resolution to mobile, or maybe a setting for it. Hmmmmmmm777 (talk) 17:25, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

They’re adding 1.3 to mobile soon, within a month or two. Bigger screen resolution, not so much... I don’t know when they’ll add that (and this is a pixel game, so higher resolution isn’t too much of a necessity) —ϟAwesome_Diamondsϟtalk 19:59, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
lol 2 years later... nothings here... -megadabber101yt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megadabber101yt (talk • contribs) at 02:29, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Formatting failure, probably on "Phantasmal Deathray".

Getting an error message in the middle of a paragraph:

     When attached to Moon Lord's head, the head eye periodically opens for a few seconds, and then fires a Phantasmal Deathray.png Phantasmal Deathray 
    A database query error has occurred. Did you forget to run your application's database schema updater after upgrading? 

Query: SELECT `title` AS `title`,`dsk` AS `dsk`,`cns` AS `cns`,`jas` AS `jas`,`old` AS `old`,`mbl` AS `mbl`,`3ds` AS `3ds` FROM `cargo__Exclusive` WHERE title="Phantasmal Deathray" ORDER BY `title`, `dsk`, `cns`, `jas`, `old` LIMIT 1 Function: CargoSQLQuery::run Error: 1146 Table 'terraria_gamepedia.cargo__Exclusive' doesn't exist (db1_cluster.aurora.local.curse.us:3306) 

-- MentalMouse42 (talk) 11:23, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Fixed. :) – Ferretwings (talk) 13:34, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

In regards to Moderator Murrayzero’s edit

Maybe nauseous instead? Sorry about my wording. At the time I felt “nausea” would be misunderstood, and I ended up being to blunt. Also sorry if I posted the tip in the wrong area, thought I had the correct place. Uygfjmhgvh (talk) 12:59, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Environment

Would his "Environment" be considered the Lunar events? after all, he only spawns after the events. Pbone3 (talk) 02:19, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

With the Celestial Sigil, he can be summoned at any time, so having the Lunar events as his "Environment" would be misleading. 193.210.231.110 06:28, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Trivia

Are we sure this boss is a reference to Cthulhu? To me, he seems more likely to reference Apocolototh, as aforementioned character's also known as the "The Moon God" and is often described as a lunar entity Pbone3 (talk) 23:08, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Moon Lord looks very similar to many depictions of Cthulhu, and the devs joked about it being Cthulhu's brother, so it's very likely. Also, I tried to google Apocolototh and no sources appeared. Do you have more information on this character? 4e696e6a6f795844 (talk) 23:21, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
My bad, I misstyped it: I meant Apocolothoth (was in a rush). Even if moonlord is still a reference to Cthulhu, his name and setting bear a close resemblence Pbone3 (talk) 03:34, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Hmm... I must say it's viable that it could be a slight reference, maybe even a double reference to both, but it's a stretch. This discussion (https://steamcommunity.com/app/105600/discussions/0/541906989402856336/) brings up that Moon Lord fires True Eyes of Cthulhu, and given Cthulhu's prominent role throughout the game, it would make sense that is a primary reference, but at the same time, there is a small bit of info floating around that Apocolothoth was trapped on the dark side of the moon(? I'm going off any websites I can find at the moment...) and this coincidentally lines up with Terraria lore; saying that "...Ultimately this substantial damage forced Cthulhu to retreat to the dark side of the moon...".
Unfortunately, due to the lack of info surrounding Apocolothoth it's not undeniable, so unless more parallels can be drawn or the developers can confirm it, it's not going to be able to be put on the page. Apocolothoth is a very interesting divergence from the Cthulhu mythos, though. 4e696e6a6f795844 (talk) 04:03, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, that's understandable. Thanks for your time Pbone3 (talk) 04:11, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

i can see that, besides if you put it together he is skeletron, brain of Cthulhu, eye of Cthulhu, twins, and that's it. put all of those together. it's just like how i found out the eyes of the wall of flesh is the twins and the mouth is the eye of cthulhu. Wolf (talk) 14:31, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

More stable pattern in 1.4

The patch notes say:

"Moon Lord’s attack pattern has been slightly tweaked to be more consistent, as the different eyes would become desynced over time, resulting in a more random fight (which was not intended). In addition, the amount of time that his forehead eye spends open is slightly increased"

Does that mean that he has an exact pattern now, like the one on the Empress of Light's page? If so, can anybody figure out what it is? Mathbrush1 (talk) 20:53, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

great trick

use the power of.......................................THE NURSE! use the nurse in her house so the moon beam do'sent hit you,and use the solar eruption,if you can do it 2 player,and.................................................BAM!he's dead.(and she almost never dies sense she can heal fast)73.180.30.93 04:30, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Sorry about being crazy here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.180.30.93 (talk) at 03:58, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

The minecart is only on the desktop version of terraria

Change ut plz Iloveyoubanderitaxmouhib (talk) 12:14, 29 June 2020 (UTC) the minecart is on console.

the minecart is on console. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.180.30.93 (talk) at 04:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

No, its on console desktop and mobile.

Source Code

How do wiki editors access the source code? Is there a terminal or something where you can check drop rates and the like? I was just wondering how wiki editors get things like the chance of a blood moon to spawn. Also, at the bottom of a lot of wiki pages, like this one, a citation will say something like "Information taken from Desktop 1.4.0.5 Source Code, method RegisterBossMoonLord( )" so i was just wondering how it was taken from source, and how exact chances are found. Captaingc21 (talk) 14:40, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

The source code is obtainable by decompiling the Terraria.exe file, there are several programs for that. You'll end up with numerous .cs (C#) files, which contain the methods that are referenced in those citation notes. With sufficient knowledge of C# and XNA, the framework used for the game, you can essentially track down every single thing that you see happening in the game to the respective line of code. For drop or spawn chances, there's often also quite a bit of stochastics involved. --Rye Greenwood (talk) 15:11, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Vandalism

Someone has been adding false moon lord drops for master mode like truffle worms with 10000% drop chance(impossible) and crazy amounts of life fruits. The lunar flare is also removed from the normal mode drops. Someone also needs to verify if the moonlord does indeed drop cellphones on master mode. Please remove these false edits quickly, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.65.17.118 at 07:54, November 21, 2020 (UTC)

I have reverted all contributions to this page by Tabykittycat59 and submitted a vandal report on the Terraria Wiki:Admin noticeboard. TheLOLxd2 talk 10:10, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

World changes after Moon Lord defeat

Is there a list of things that change after the Moon Lord is defeated, like the list for Mechanical bosses? As far as I know, it's just the painter selling a moon lord painting and the princess selling a music box, but there has to be more, right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mathbrush1 (talkcontribs) at 19:36, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

The ultimate strategy

After A total of More than 25 fights, i found the best way to kill him. Put the nurse in a house, on a skybridge made of solid blocks, if you can make it put a pit so she'll fall in if the moon lord attacks her, make sure she cant get out. make sure you have at least a few gold on hand and save your solar fragments to make a solar eruption. prepare as much of this as you can be for the status message impending doom approaches.

                                                  THE FIGHT

Once he spawns Never let go of attack unless your useing the nurse. try to pick a hand to attack and always aim for it.once its dead kill the other hand then kill the top eye and finally the heart. Ive found this is possiblly the best way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.180.30.93 (talk) at 04:18, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

"The Moon Lord" or "Moon Lord"?

Is Moon Lord a name or is Moon describing the Lord? Is it A Moon Lord or The Moon Lord? --AmsterWikis (talk) 05:05, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

I noticed that our usage is inconsistent here, so I'm going to revive this: I reckon it should be "the Moon Lord". I think of it as a noun, as "lord of the moon" (so that "moon" is interchangeable with anything else, e.g. "the Sun Lord", "the Earth Lord", "the Cheese Lord"), not as a proper name, and I believe the article cannot be omitted then. --Rye Greenwood (talk) 23:49, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Weapon drop rates possibly incorrect?

In the section "Two of the following 9 weapons will always drop", the items have a listed drop rate of 22.2% (i.e. ~2/9). As far as I know, you're guaranteed to get 2 different items, so shouldn't the drop rate be 1/9 + 1/8, or ~23.61%?

For some context, "RegisterBoss_MoonLord()" in "ItemDropDatabase.cs" calls "FromOptionsWithoutRepeatsDropRule()", which can be found in "FromOptionsWithoutRepeatsDropR.cs".

Ramppaa (talk) 17:44, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

He has fingernails

I thought he was an alien with a problem, not a giant human with it’s body cut off

Reduced NPC damage from moon lord note is misleading/outdated about classic difficulty.

By the time you fight moon lord, your NPCs can have 113 defence if you have used both combat technique guides, and defeated every boss before Moon Lord. Moon Lord's beam deals 150 damage on classic mode. with 113 defence you would expect a damage range of 82-111. The note lists the Phantasmal Deathray attack as dealing 100–130 damage to NPCs on classic. If you skip both books, queen slime, eye of cthulhu, eater of worlds/brain, queen bee, and empress of light, your NPCs would have 72 defence (lowest possible while still fighting every boss required to challenge Moon Lord) and you would expect a damage range of 97-131. This means either their NPCs had lower defence than should normally be possible, or all non-nurse NPCs do not gain damage reduction against Moon Lord on classic difficulty. The number listed for expert difficulty would indicate damage reduction however. The numbers listed for the first phase "20-35" is also slightly higher on average that what you would expect from max defence NPCs. The number for damage dealt by True Eye Cthulhu is listed as 45-85. Bare minimum defense values would result in a max of 85 dmg from a true eye of cthulhu deathray getting a max damage roll. Cyan Catra (talk) 05:36, 15 April 2024 (UTC)